Bringing Things Full Circle

In October 2017, Sydney spent 10 days at The Creak Studio, in Franklin, Tennessee, recording her first EP: Music Behind the Movement. (It was actually taken down last week, but one of the songs will be re-released under Be The Change Collective on July 19th!) Along with her friend, Caleb, Sydney spent those 10 days in a creative space like none other she had ever experienced. They watched her songs, some written with her Yamaha guitar when she was 14-years-old, evolve in a way she never dreamt possible. Not to mention, she was getting to work with one of her all-time favorite worship artists in the world. If the adventure ended right then and there… life would be have been complete.

But, the story most definitely didn’t end there.

Sydney at The Creak Studio in Franklin, Tennessee, with Brad, Caleb, and David.

David invited Sydney back to Nashville 10 days later to take part in a song writing intensive with Integrity Music. Forty song writers from all over the world come together for five days to write 120 songs. Sydney thought she was going to tag along with David to see what the songwriting process was like in Nashville. (A great opportunity on its own!) But, two days before heading back down, David called to let us know that she would be participating in the song writing sessions all by herself. (Side story: Her first session was at Gateway Church in Franklin. She was so incredibly nervous. Rightfully so. She asked me to pray for her while she was writing, so Brayden and I went into the sanctuary and prayed… FOR THREE HOURS! When we picked her up after the session was over, Brayden said, “That song better be good because we prayed over it for three stinkin’ hours… WITHOUT STOPPING.)

Her last writing session, on the final day of the week, was with two amazingly humble and talented songwriters: Matt Armstrong and Krissy Nordhoff. In a moment that doesn’t get talked about as much as it probably should, Sydney’s life was forever changed… because Matt, who has written for Christian artists like Chris Tomlin, asked this 16-year-old kid from Maine if she had any song writing ideas.

Sydney with Krissy and Matt.

Sydney shared our story: how I found myself pregnant with her after my first semester of law school, unsure what to do and without a church home… because I was asked to leave for fear of the example I would be setting for the children in the church. I ended up at an abortion clinic in New Hampshire where the Lord placed the most kind, gentil-spirited human being I have ever met in my life. She listened to my story, taking in every word as I painfully explained the impossible decision I had to make. She then asked to speak to Sydney’s father, who also shared his reluctance to support a decision that would forever change our lives… no matter what we decided. This woman explained all of our options and then shared her personal opinion: we should go home. She then excused herself from the room and left the two of us to talk.

We were unable to definitively decide what our ultimate decision would be, but in that moment, we most assuredly knew what our decision would not be. Afterwards, as we began walking through the exit of the clinic, this same woman began running after us. Winded from the run, she confessed to having never shared her personal feelings to a couple before, because she could lose her job. But, she knew it was the right thing to do. Looking back on that moment now, I’m in awe of the story the Lord was already writing. In the depths of my heartache and isolation, He was present and had a purpose.

After sharing that story, Sydney went on to write a song with Matt and Krissy. But, that night, the Lord woke Krissy from a dream and gave her the words for a new song. Words she sent to David, asking him to forward on to Sydney… but he forgot. Months later, she found our contact information and asked if we ever received the song and then forwarded it to us herself. I remember reading over the words and instantly thinking this song needs to be the in hands of every woman facing an unplanned pregnancy. But, the song also wasn’t finished and Krissy asked Sydney if she would help her with that task.

Sydney and Krissy after they finished writing Carry On.

In January 2018, Sydney went to Krissy’s home and they finished the song Carry On, a plea for young mothers to see that the life inside them might have the power and purpose to change the world. But, it’s also an anthem for the church, calling Christians to surround these women with love and support, not condemnation. Our fourth and final post in this series starts on the day Sydney recorded Carry On at The Creak, so I’ll end this story here. BUT, you should know that part of our story on the road was created from this song.

Sydney with Krissy and David at The Creak Studio on recording day.

Due to the kindness and generosity of some of the most amazing people we have met in the Christian recording industry (David Leonard, Krissy Nodhoff, and Integrity Music), we are giving away FREE downloads of Carry On to pregnancy care centers across the country. We’re calling it The Carry On Project. Sydney has been to clinics from Maine to Texas handing out the cards. To date, www.iwillcarryon.com is the most viewed page on our website! It’s so humbling to see our story shared with countless others across the country. But, even more, I’m in awe of how the Lord gave Sydney a heart and vision for encouraging children to use their gifts and talents to help others… and then gave her an opportunity to use hers in such a profound way.

It Takes a Village

Along this journey the Lord has given us the gift of encouragement and opportunity through the unexpected. As someone recently said, “The favor of the Lord is so apparent it’s undeniable.” It’s something our family talks about often… usually when we’re ready to give up. We know He has opened up circles of influence many spend their lives only dreaming of and because of that, we hold those relationship as sacred. Sydney has become a pro at spotting those who pretend to care about her, or the ministry the Lord has entrusted her with, as a means to benefit from her “connections.” The reason: she doesn’t view these people as “connections.” To her (and us), they are family. We’re protective of family.

One of those people is Mark Stuart, co-founder of Hands and Feet Project (also former lead singer of Audio Adrenaline), was instrumental in the creation of Be The Change Youth Initiative. Honestly, I’m pretty sure it wouldn’t exist if it wasn’t for him. Shortly after David introduced us to Mark, Sydney and I found ourselves headed off to Haiti on a founders trip for Hands and Feet Project. One of the things we LOVE about this organization is their commitment to offering opportunity to the people of Haiti through job creation. IKONDO, one of the most beautiful places we’ve ever stayed while traveling, is a profound example of this.

On the last night of our trip, Sydney asked if she could speak with Mark. (She actually made an entire video about her appreciation for Mark and the impact that moment had in her life. You can see it HERE.) She shared the idea for Be The Change Youth Initiative: What if kids all over the United States could use their gifts and talents to advocate for other children around the world? What if kids could do the things they love (like painting, baking, running, reading, swimming… even building Legos!) to raise money for those in need? Mark loved the idea and told Sydney to put together a formal proposal. He invited us back to Nashville the following month to “pitch” him a Fundraising Initiative idea. And as luck would have it, David Leonard happened to stop by the Frothy Monkey to sit in on that meeting.

Sydney shared her original vision, but also began dreaming about how she could use HER gifts to advocate and create change for others. She told Mark and David how she was creating music for her partnerships (Make-A-Wish, Africa New Life, Hands and Feet Project) and that all of the proceeds from those songs would go to the Fundraising Initiatives, as well as sales from shirts designed by a local teen in Maine who was also using her gifts to help. Immediately, David asked Sydney to send him her music. The problem however… there was nothing to share. The music was created, written down in her notebooks, but nothing concrete to listen to.

There was this awkward silence for about 10 seconds and then Mark turned to Sydney saying, “When David Leonard asks to listen to your music, you send him your music.” So we went home, made some video recordings and emailed them to David. By the end of the next day, he reached out to Jamie to see if we could talk. By the end of the week, we were creating a Kickstarted campaign to cover the cost of recording an 8 track EP. (We were told by WAY TOO MANY people that campaigns like ours NEVER get funded. Well, ours did… in 21 DAYS! Just another example of how Jesus was in this from the beginning.)

As Sydney was preparing to record in Franklin, Tennessee, she was also putting together the first Be The Change Youth Initiative Fundraising Initiative. She recruited 21 kids, from all over the country, to use their gifts and talents to help build a daycare in Jacmel, Haiti, through our partnership with Hands and Feet Project. Their goal was to raise $20,000 over the summer of 2017 and our Fundraising Initiative helped with almost $8,000 of that goal.

Pieces of the puzzle were starting to come together.

The First Pivotal Moment in Our Journey

If you’ve been following along with the blog, you know how we got to this place in life from a spiritual perspective. If you know us personally, you also know the story behind Be The Change Youth Initiative. If you don’t, you can learn more about the back story here. (If you’re on Instagram, you can also follow along with that adventure here.) But, if you’re only interested in the Cliff’s Notes version, here you go. (Just kidding… there are no Cliff’s Notes versions for anything in our life. Nothing.) But, in the next four posts, I’m going to explain how we became full-time RV missionaries… followed by all the CRAZY stories from the road.

About four months after leaving the last church, which also meant Sydney leaving her position as a worship leader, our family went on a missions trip to Eleuthera (October 2016). Sydney was invited back to the island for a month long internship where she would help lead worship at a local church and at the camp, as well as teach guitar lessons to the local kids. However, about two months before she was set to leave, the company responsible for the trip filed for bankruptcy. Long story short: We lost the money we paid for her trip, our deposit for a future family mission trip, and 33 high school credits for future classes (equating to approximately $10,000).

Given everything else going on with life during that time, Sydney became incredibly depressed and couldn’t understand why God kept closing doors when it came to using her gifts for music. About 24 hours after the news, I was scrolling through Sydney’s Instagram account and found a post from her favorite worship group, All Sons and Daughters. They had just wrapped up a European tour and were auctioning off a few of their things as a fundraiser for Hands & Feet Project. One of those items happened to be a tour of their studio in Franklin, Tennessee, followed by lunch with the duo.

The thought of bidding on something destined to reach astronomical heights made me want to vomit. Remember, we just lost $10,000. (Side note: Because we used our credit cards… Sorry, Dave Ramsey… we got $6,500 back!) But, I’m not quite sure you can put a price tag on encouraging your child given the circumstances of our lives over the previous six months. So I called my husband, told him about the auction and held my breath. And, honestly, to my surprise, he agreed with my assessment. But, he also gave me a cap…. a cap I reached after only 3 HOURS INTO THE 3 DAY AUCTION. (It was a nice thought and it really would have encouraged her, but no one ever wins these things except rich people. Well… that’s what I thought, until three days later, when I got the email saying I won.)

I’m not quite sure how to articulate my shock. The bidding for those three hours had been back and forth with multiple people increasing the price every 10 to 15 minutes. The fact that it just stopped at my last bid is inexplicable…. probably because it was God. Looking back over the past two years, EVERYTHING stems from that trip to Nashville to visit David and Leslie. It was on that trip that we were introduced to Mark Stuart. (I’ll share about that in the next post.) They also introduced us to one of our future board members, who was the Youth Ministry Pastor at David’s church. But, arguably, the most pivotal moment came after lunch when David and Leslie invited us back to the studio.

As we entered the front room, Sydney, Leslie and I took a seat as David disappeared into another room. When he returned, he was holding a guitar, which he gave to Sydney, as he said, “Alright kid, show me whatcha got.” Imagine being 15-years-old and asked, by one of your favorite musician in the world, to share something you’ve written. It was like a scene out of a movie and, little did we know, the lead domino to fall in a never-ending cascade of dominoes… that continue to fall.

Turning the Page

A lot has happened over the past three years. It took me a good four months to enter a church after my previous experience. It took another couple of months to actually sit through an entire service, a whole year to make it through without crying during worship, or getting full on angry about something that was said. I wish I could say we moved on, found a perfect church (yeah… I know it doesn’t exist) and everything was completely better. That’s not the case. But here’s what we did find: a place that, despite our kids ages (15 and 13 at the time), wanted their help to lead worship. We found a church that wanted our family to be a part of their community, despite our warnings that we came with baggage… enough to fill a house.

I remember Jamie and I sitting down with the pastor and his wife. I shared the epiphany of my mentor informing me that I had the heart of a prophet… and for that reason alone, not many men in leadership will probably appreciate (or like) anything I have to say. (Yeah… that would have been helpful to know about 8 years ago.) I remember telling them that their friendship was important to me and I didn’t want to jeopardize that friendship by joining their church. Two and a half years removed from that conversation, and eventually becoming members of their church, I won’t lie… there have been moments of tension between us, but, at the same time, things have been different. Probably because I’m different. (And we’re still friends… just for the record.)

The past few years have taught me something incredibly important. I don’t have to be proven right in the eyes of man. I just need to honor the Lord. I need to make sure every word leaving my lips is filtered through the Word of God and wrapped in the love of the Savior. (I’m still working on that last one.) How it’s received isn’t on me. How people respond isn’t on me either. I’ve learned to say what needs to be said and then step down from any potential confrontation, even when my words are met with anger and frustration. There’s something incredibly freeing in that. But, my husband and I also realized something else as we look back on the past eight years… we’ve been lied to a whole lot by leaders in the church. So many times, in fact, it couldn’t be a coincidence. So many times, it couldn’t be ignored.

One night, with a bottle of bourbon, Jamie and I spent a few hours looking back over the past eight years and all the inconsistencies between what was preached on Sunday mornings and what was lived out the other six days of the week. We questioned why people were so quick to talk about the sins of abortion and gay marriage, but not really bothered by the sins of gluttony or gossip. Quite possibly because they enjoy indulging themselves at the local doughnut shop while catching up on all the salacious neighborhood “news.” (If you didn’t catch the sarcasm there… it was.) We wondered why discussions about immigration and refugees turned rational people into raging pundits for nationalism who could only respond with things like “But, we have laws.” (Sounds like something the Pharisees said to Jesus when he healed people on the Sabbath?) Also… what if the church in Acts wasn’t actually “all but dead”? What if we ARE suppose to give away our possessions and not keep storehouses full of riches? What if we actually acknowledged that living the American Dream wasn’t really conducive to following Jesus. God forbid… what if we learned that it PREVENTED us from TRULY following Jesus as he prescribes in the gospels? I think we might find a lot of people turning away from their churches, much like the rich young ruler turned away from Jesus. (And we can’t have that because if they turn away, they take their money with them.)

This, my friends, is where this blog is headed. I already have enough stories to write a book. Three books. For now, I will say this: I’ve never been more HOPEFUL about the church than I am at this moment. We left Maine out of desperation and our desperation brought us to the most beautiful place we have ever been. It’s hard. There have been tears. But, we have one life and we’re going to live it like Jesus is real, alive, and seated at the right hand of the Father. We don’t have the answers, but we know the One who does. So, we’re going to chase after Him.

When Love is the Exception and NOT the Rule

I wish this story had a happier ending, at least in the short term. I wish I could say the youth pastor apologized for lying to me, or even for calling me a hernia. He DID apologize… he was sorry that what he said offended me. But, that is COMPLETELY different than apologizing for what he said. Neither did the pastor apologize for avoiding the issue for so long… or for asking me misrepresent the truth to the teens.

It took me a LONG time to forgive them. But I have. Because forgiveness is on me. However, reconciliation is something completely different… and this, I feel is one of the most deep seeded issues in the American Church. I’ve heard so many sermons on the need to forgive. And, it’s true; as believers we are called to forgive those who sin against us. But, reconciliation is much more difficult. And if you’re part of a community of believers (a local church body), where reconciliation isn’t walked out, you might be in a place that’s doing more harm than good.

I recently came across this article, which sums it up quite well:

“Differing from forgiveness, reconciliation is often conditioned on the attitude and actions of the offender. While its aim is restoration of a broken relationship, those who commit significant and repeated offenses must be willing to recognize that reconciliation is a process. If they’re genuinely repentant, they will recognize and accept that the harm they’ve caused takes time to heal.”

Steve Cornell, How to Move from Forgiveness to Reconciliation (The Gospel Coalition, March 29, 2012)

Being forced into community with someone who has caused you harm, especially when it was intentional, is toxic… at the very least! But, not dealing with the offense (the sin) is incredibly detrimental to the local body. If we are to achieve the unity John speaks about in John 17, reconciliation is imperative. Forgiving and simply moving on is NOT biblical. Reconciliation requires the offending party to acknowledge they did something wrong. Until that happens, reconciliation will never happen.

Three years removed from this, our family is so incredibly grateful for that refining season. We grew closer as a family, but we also grew closer to the Lord. He has grown my heart in profound ways. Believe it or not, I can sympathize with the lead pastor. I get the PTSD associated with something like this. The Lord has grown my heart for those who have been hurt by others in the church, especially in similar circumstances to ours. We’ve met a lot of them on the road.

We’re also seeing some great examples of humble (imperfect) leadership. Men and women committed to leading well because they love well. And at the end of the day, I really think that was the issue in our situation. Not once, honestly, did we feel loved and respected during that process. As a church, we have to start there. The world is suppose to know our Savior because of our inexplicable love for one another. Right now, I think that’s more the exception than the rule. But at the end of the day, it’s something we CAN actually change. We start by loving others the way we long to be loved. And that’s what we decided to do.

Coming Out of the Fog

AFTER I agreed to permanently step down from volunteering in the youth ministry, the lead pastor sat down with us to discuss why the elders had a problem with what I was doing. We also asked for one of the elders to be present because hearing from them directly was important. (Looking back, we should have demanded this meeting sooner, but we were trying to honor the process. The problem with that…. we assumed everyone else involved was doing the same. I mean… everyone else involved was in leadership at the church, so it SHOULD have been a fair assumption.)

We met at a local diner for breakfast. (We should have known this was a bad sign. You only meet in public places for discussions like this when you’re looking to limit any negative reaction.) We sat down, ordered food and engaged in the small talk, then Jamie and I addressed the elephant in the room:

Why did the elders have a problem with what I was doing with these teens?

I still remember what happened next… as if it happened yesterday instead of three years ago. Jamie and I sat there expectantly. I really hadn’t eaten much from my plate. I simply moved it around to make it look like I had. We’d been waiting for the answer to this question for over three months by this point, so eating was the furthest thing from my mind.

Without the slightest bit of hesitation, the elder kept chewing his food as he questioned what we were talking about. I immediately looked at the lead pastor… who did EVERYTHING in his power to NOT look at me. Thankfully, Jamie didn’t miss a beat and followed up by explaining the accusations against me by the youth pastor. The elder’s response: This is the first time he’s hearing about any of this.

Imagine ALL the thoughts going through my head and ALL the emotions I was feeling at that moment. For months we had been told the elders were the ones with the problem. The pastor KNEW this. But, we would soon find out it was all a lie. When people ask me about the fruit of the Spirit, I give them this example because the self-control I exhibited for the remainder of the conversation was NOTHING BUT THE GRACE OF GOD.

For the next three minutes, the lead pastor tried to save face. He shared about a horrific church split at his previous church. The issue: some people believed the church should be seeker friendly and some believed it should be discipleship driven. (Well… that explains a lot about the “philosophical” issues! But, seriously, why can’t it be both?!?) He told us he didn’t want to go down that path again. (I’m still not sure why he thought we would… he never once talked to us, never knew our side of the story and never offered any inclination that he even cared. And we NEVER ONCE discussed it this with anyone at the church except two other couples… even when people asked. I wasn’t trying to fracture the church. I just wanted to take some teens to the inner city to talk with people who live on the streets. We were committed to unity.)

No one seemed to care that the youth pastor had repeatedly lied, that we had asked for help with the situation numerous times to no avail. The teens were still in the dark about what was going on and we had to tell them something, especially since I was no longer a part of the youth ministry. So Jamie asked the pastor for his suggestions on how to explain everything to them in a way that honors everyone involved (STILL committed to unity). But, what came out of his mouth… I STILL can’t believe it.

He wanted me to tell them I had “issues” that needed to be dealt with, issues with the church that prevented me from leading. (Even by their own reasoning this was a lie because they told us the REAL issue was our decision to not be members of the church.) Imagine, knowing how long we tried to submit to this process, the lies we had been told, the refusal of the lead pastor to meet with us… then being told to lie to these kids? And also remember this was NEVER brought up. NOT ONCE. Everything I did with those kids was approved by the youth pastor. Everything. He told me the elders weren’t happy with what I was doing… which was a lie. The youth pastor called me names because I refused to take his word as truth… because it wasn’t. If you ever wonder why people leave the church… this is why.

Just for the record, I don’t have an issue with the church. The church is the bride of Christ. I love the church. My issue is with some people in the church, specifically people in leadership. I take issue with leaders who lie, and ESPECIALLY with those who cover-up their lies. I have issues with men who are quick to accuse women of refusing to submit to authority when the REAL issue is how men ABUSE their authority. I have a problem when congregants ask for help and they don’t get it. And I have a problem with leaders who tell you to lie… especially when it’s to cover up their own sin. And you should, too.

I remember two things about what happened next: I could almost taste the adrenaline that was coursing through my veins and I could feel my husband’s hand firmly squeezing my knee. It was a reminder to breathe…and that I wasn’t alone.

Behind the Scenes

Before I continue with this story, a few things need to be addressed. Unfortunately, our circumstances were not an isolated event. Another family walked through this situation with us. Their story is just that… theirs. But, one thing I am compelled to share with you: our devotion to unity. Yes, we were frustrated by the process. Yes, we were angry with the constant disrespect. But, Jamie and I were committed to walking this out in a biblical way… and we paid the consequences for it. 

First, the good. Many are unaware of how committed we were to unity… at all costs. (Granted, my honest narrative up to this point might not reflect that priority, because I also want you to see I’m not pious, or self-righteous. I’m one incredibly flawed individual. I know this and I own it.) But, during those six months, I prayed and fasted more than ever before. Arguably, for the first time in my life, I was trusting Jesus, and the process set forth in the Bible, to walk out conflict and fight for unity. The other couple, mentioned above, came over to our house specifically to pray with us over the situation. We prayed for unity. We prayed for humility. We prayed our kids’ hearts wouldn’t be hardened by this process. I kept my mouth shut and my heart open. I was committed. But, there was an unforeseen downside in that. 

My daughter was becoming angry. At this point, the youth pastor had taken over the group, which simply meant they were helping out with the middle school kids, without receiving the intentional teaching and discipleship. They were no longer going into Portland to talk to the people living on the street. But, it was more than that. Sydney’s a smart kid. She was piecing together what was going on behind the scenes. She knew the youth pastor had been lying. (And, even more disturbing, he was trying to plant seeds of doubt in her… against us.) She was angry about the whole situation, but, most of all… she was angry at me. 

She couldn’t comprehend how I was able to show him respect… and require for her to do the same… when he obviously had no respect for me or her. She couldn’t reconcile how I constantly talked about the need for her to stand up for herself, when I clearly wasn’t doing the same. (Yeah… that one stung a little.) She couldn’t understand how a man like this was able to be a leader in the church. And in that moment, my heart broke because, if nothing else,  I knew this wouldn’t be the last time she asked herself that question.

Looking back on that season, believe it or not, I’m so incredibly thankful. Our family was pruned and sharpened beyond what I thought possible. One occasion I will never forget, right after the other couple involved came over to pray. They told us the youth pastor was insisting the teens in the group not take part in helping Sydney raise money to grant a wish for a child through the Make-A-Wish Foundation. PLEASE, LET THAT SINK IN. His contempt for me was so great that he wanted to prevent these kids from working together to grant a wish for a child facing a potentially life-threatening disease. The youth pastor went so far as to tell the lead pastor he needed to intervene and stop it from happening. Thankfully, the pastor wouldn’t do it… not because he thought the kids working together was a good idea… but because he couldn’t control what these parents allowed their kids to do outside of church.

After the couple left, I remember dropping to the floor in my living room and crying. The sound that escaped me… well, I mentioned it before. It was the same as when my parents died. It was a sound of someone in the depths of despair. I remember my husband just watching, unable to console me. He had been down this road before and knew this was part of my grieving process. I was grieving so much: the lack of leadership, the missed opportunity for unity, the pride of man, the opportunities lost with those high schoolers.

It took us almost 18 months to share this with Sydney. She was already fed up with the lies and deceit, but to know the one person in the church who was suppose to encourage her growth in Jesus was intentionally working to sabotage the work she felt called to… she would have walked away from the church. (Remember, she was only 14 years old at the time!) We’re almost three years removed from this season and now we watch her stand on a stage in front of hundreds of people talking about this experience. She tells people how close she came from walking away from the church. She learning how the Lord uses the brokenness of our lives to create a testimony that speaks to others in their brokenness.

Unfortunately, our story isn’t an isolated event. As we travel the country, we’ve heard a similar version from countless others. We’ve talked to people who HAVE walked away from the church because of leadership who cares more about protecting other leaders than protecting their flock. (We’ll get to that in the next post.) And, PLEASE, hear me out on this. It has absolutely nothing to do with wanting a PERFECT church… every misguided leader, who wants to protect their position of authority, is quick to throw that little soundbite at you. It has to do with leadership’s willingness to be PERFECTED, which is an incredibly painful process. 

I’m Sorry… What Did You Just Call Me?

I’m going to be really honest for a moment. Sitting down, under those circumstances, was one of the hardest things I’ve ever had to do. I still remember the expression on the youth pastor’s face. When I hear people talk about misogyny in the church, I think of that moment. I think about things he would say to me, things he would say to my daughter (I’ll get to that in a later post)… looking back, the signs were all there.

As I reluctantly took my seat, he was emboldened to speak his mind. Something he would soon regret. I remember the moment, forever seared into my cerebral cortex. With a smug look on his face he asked, “Do you know what’s wrong with you, Deirdre?” (For the record, it’s NEVER a good idea to ask a woman if she knows what’s wrong with her. NEVER. No intelligent man, LET ALONE GODLY LEADER, would EVER be so arrogant as to assume that he has the right to possess the thought, let alone say the words.)

He didn’t give me a chance to answer the question. (And I most certainly had a few answers for him… colorful, vivid, descriptive answers for where he could shove his question. By this point, taking the high road was becoming increasingly more difficult by the minute.) But, let’s be honest… he wasn’t interested in anything I had to say. All he cared about was making sure I knew he wielded the power as the next four words escaped his mouth: You’re like a hernia.

I’m sorry… what did you just call me?

I guess the look on my face was something to be reckoned with, because all the color drained from his face. I remember what happened next like it was yesterday, and I will for the remainder of my days on this earth because it’s one of the reasons why I love my husband so much.

I looked at him, mostly for confirmation that my ears weren’t deceiving me, and then his eyes met mine. He began shaking his head in dismay and waved his hand as a sign for me to do what I had LONGED to do for the past 20 minutes: Speak the TRUTH without fear of the consequences… without caring about the youth pastor’s threat of tattletaling to our pastor. My husband knew he was witnessing a clear abuse of power and, instead of defending my honor, he let me defend it myself.

I asked the youth pastor for clarification. My response went something like this:

Well, I guess the big question is what you’re planning to do with me. As far as I know, you deal with hernias in one of two ways: you surgically remove them or stuff them back into place. So which is it? Do you want to remove me from the youth ministry or put me back into place… whatever you think that place might be? Inquiring minds want to know. (Yes, I did say that last part. It was snarky and not remotely helpful in diffusing the situation, but under the circumstances, I give credit to the Holy Spirit for the restraint because I was genuinely consumed by righteous indignation. In what universe is this acceptable?) And where in the world was it coming from?!?! How was it possible that I could lead a group for five months, have documentation of every activity… including requests for approval of ALL activities… and be called a hernia by the person who granted me the permission? Not once was a concern EVER voiced… until these kids stood in front of the church and told them how much they were learning from me.

The youth pastor tried to say he misspoke, but seriously, even Lance Armstrong couldn’t back peddle out of this one. And for the second time that night, my husband reminded me why we’re married. He called the youth pastor out on the spot. He told him that for the first time that evening he WAS speaking the truth… that he actually did see me as a threat that needed to be dealt with, that he was obviously threatened by my intelligence and how much these kids were responding to my time with them. He told him I had absolutely no interest in taking over his job and that I was probably the biggest asset he had… but that his insecurities blinded him from seeing my strengths, or maybe it was just his jealousy that kept him from acknowledging them. And with that, my husband stood up, looked at me, and said, “We’re done here.”

Yeah… my husband is the BEST.

We got in the car and didn’t say a word for a while. I think we were trying to process what happened. Eventually, my husband mentioned something about reaching out to the pastor. Obviously, the lead pastor would deal with this and make it right. There were WAY TOO MANY things that needed to be brought out into the light and addressed, right? (Again… never assume anything. We never imagined things could get worse than this. But they did.)

Maybe I Should Have Walked Out

Taking three week away from the routine of life really helps you gain perspective. It also helps you recognize your own sin in a situation. For me, I’ve always felt this need to prove that I’m “right.” I chalk it up to years of having to prove to men in the church that my passion for the gospel is more than emotionalism; my questioning of leadership is more than an unwillingness to submit to authority; my eagerness to wrestle out theology has nothing to do with proving my intelligence is superior to someone with the XY chromosomes, or any other chromosomal pairing for that matter. I’m driven not by a desire to be right, but by a desire to be treated fairly. Unfortunately, that hasn’t always been my experience in the church.

One thing was clear, from this point forward, Jamie would be attending all of the meetings with me. Mostly because I wanted the accountability, but also because he had a REALLY hard time wrapping his head around all of this. (It was hard to believe the youth pastor would take a position against what I was doing with these teens.) Plus, Jamie was an attorney by profession and a mediator by gifting. He has a way of sifting through all the extemporaneous junk, and, with scalpel precision, get to the heart of an issue. But, he was about to have a front row seat to the absurdity.

Before walking into the meeting, Jamie asked to take lead on the conversation and I was more than happy to oblige. From our perspective, solving the problem was easy. We needed to know why the elders had a problem with what I was doing, address those concerns (by showing everything I was teaching the teens was taken straight from the Bible), and then figure out how to move forward. Jamie’s question was simple: Can you tell us specifically what issues the elders had with my teachings and practices? It was pretty straight forward, right?

Well, the youth pastor also came with his own set of questions. It became clear to see that while Jamie and I spent the last three weeks trying to find a path forward, the man sitting in front of me was focused on one thing: keeping me from working with those teens. His accusations and questions came fast and furious. Why did I refuse to take the teens to the soup kitchen? Why was I refusing to take the evangelism class at the church? He said the elders were questioning him about what I was teaching these teens and that he had no clue.

I tried to answer each question without completely losing my cool. But, I won’t lie. It was hard for two reasons. First, I had already answered these questions… multiple times. Second, we were there to figure out why the elders were upset about what I was doing with the teens. That was the accusation against me, almost a month to the date, but we still couldn’t get an answer to WHO was actually upset and WHY?

But, I answered his questions… AGAIN. As far at the soup kitchen was concerned, the teens were only able to stay in the kitchen for food prep and cleaning and they couldn’t interact with those coming to eat. But, more importantly, we weren’t allowed to talk about Jesus. I was absolutely fine with them going to the soup kitchen to serve. My problem was replacing the soup kitchen with what we were doing…. actually TALKING to the homeless ABOUT Jesus. (Preparing and serving food to the homeless is a noble and worthy endeavor, but, at the end of the day, it’s an act of humanitarianism. I wasn’t trying to make humanitarians. I was making disciples.)

As far as the evangelism class goes, my annoyance with program driven churches was pretty much at capacity. Especially if the class puts you in a room with people TALKING about following Jesus and not actually doing it. (Confession: I admit to having a pretty extreme view on things like this. For example, I’m actually against coffee bars at a church because I’m a HUGE proponent of building relationships with the people in our communities. Every Sunday we stop at our local Starbucks and have great conversations with people… conversations I wouldn’t have if I was getting my coffee at church. We should be encouraging believers to live their faith outside the walls of “church” as much as possible. And, for the record, I’m not against having coffee at church. But, here’s an important question: Do you think people at your church would be mad if you took that coffee away? Just something to think about.)

My problem with this class was specific. It’s as evangelism class (do you see where this is going?) based on Bill Hybels’ book, Just Walk Across the Room. My argument was simple: I was already teaching these kids hands-on evangelism in downtown Portland. Not to mention the fact that I took a 15 week course on evangelism in seminary and made a 99% in the class! Furthermore, I was a homeschooling mom of four, taking classes in seminary, and spending hours preparing for my time with those teens every week. The last thing I needed was one more thing on my calendar, especially if it involved spending three hours of my time in a group discussion about how to get enough courage to walk across a room and talk to someone about Jesus. Sitting in a room TALKING about doing it is dumb when you can actually be out there doing it. I could care less about checking that box, or jumping through that hoop.

The youth pastor responded by asking if I thought the elders were dumb for thinking every member of the church should take the class. (He was totally egging me on and trying to set me up with that question.) My response: I question the intelligence of anyone who thinks reading a book and talking about something in a classroom is more important than actually doing it. (At this point, it was taking every last ounce of self-control I had to stay in that room.)

Since we were talking about the elders, I brought up his last accusation. As far as the youth pastor having no idea about what I was teaching those kids…. it was an absolute lie. Not only did I ask permission for every activity, I sent him pictures for documentation. He even went to one of my Saturday morning teaching sessions!

And in that moment, it all began to make sense. He was lying; he had been for weeks…. and I was furious.

I told him I was done and got up to leave. But he responded by telling me that if I walked out the door he would tell the lead pastor I refused to work with him. My response: I could care less what the hell you tell him. (Did I mention I was pretty ticked off by this point?) I followed it up with another stellar example of maturity: I’m not putting up with this crap anymore. And I opened the door to walk out, but Jamie told me to sit down. (Awesome… NOW you’re going to play the husband card?!?!)

To be fair to him, Jamie saw the end game… and I was just tired of playing games. His request wasn’t demanding or demeaning. He knew the youth pastor was lying… that’s why he was refusing to answer our questions. I trusted Jamie, so I sat down. And then the youth pastor opened his mouth ONE. LAST. TIME.

Mixed Messages

Immediately after leaving the meeting with our youth pastor, I sat in my car to call my mentor, who also happened to be the former women’s ministry leader at the church. I had spent the past five months meeting with her weekly as a requisite for seminary. (She also knew about everything I was doing with the kids and had been nothing but supportive and encouraging.)

For the life of me, I couldn’t fathom why the elders would have a problem with what I was doing with these kids. I thought my mentor could offer insight, and maybe some perspective. But, like me, she was flabbergasted. She suggested going to the lead pastor to talk things over, but I was reluctant for several reasons. First, I didn’t want to be one of “those people.” You know who they are… the ones who run to the pastor at the first sign of trouble. There is a biblical prescriptive for handling conflict and I was determined to walk that out. Second, I was convinced this was a matter of miscommunication. For several reasons.

You see, a few weeks prior to all this, I actually had a meeting with our lead pastor about ministry. Every once in a while, I needed to sit down with him to check in for seminary. I actually enjoyed these conversations. (That’s a nice way of saying we geek out over theology.) During this particular conversation, we talked about the possibility of me taking a job with an organization like The Navigators. After hanging up with my mentor, I remembered that conversation.

My pastor was pushing back against me working for an organization like The Navigators because it would be easy. (I would LOVE to see him have that conversation with anyone who actually works for the organization. I’m pretty sure EASY isn’t a word they’d use.) But, his argument centered on an interesting precept. Organizations like, The Navigators, have a uniform prescription for discipleship. They have a specific way of doing things, and for the purpose of consistency, you don’t really deviate from major tenants of instruction. In short, if you don’t agree with their methodology, you wouldn’t work with them. His point: You don’t have that luxury in the church. 

According to my pastor, if you have a divergent philosophy from other’s in the church (again, not about the foundational tenants of the Christian faith), you don’t have the luxury of finding a “better fit.” (Obviously, someone needs to tell that to practically everyone else in the American Church.) It’s a beautiful idea though… isn’t it? A church made up of people who believe in Jesus, but the similarities might end there. Different worship styles, different discipleship techniques, different priorities in ministry…. a place where everyone is welcome to the table. If that was true, then why was I being told that I might need to find a new church? 

As Jamie and I talked this through, and as we sought the counsel of others who were privy to the situation, we all believed this was a matter of bad communication. There really couldn’t be another explanation. (But, unfortunately, there was.) We agreed that three weeks away from the normalcy of life would allow us perspective and give everyone involved time to cool down. It can also give you time to push into the Word… and get all kinds of riled up. But, we fought for peace and against the inclination to jump to assumptions. 

But, given what we were about to walk into… we should have stuck with the assumptions.